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Camp Creek Road - BLM25-7-5.1(sh)

On a previous ride in Elliot State Forest, a Forest Ranger asked me: "well - did you go all the way around ?" At that point, after a long day of riding, I was too tired to respond with "Around what, and how long does it take ?" I finally figured out what he meant when I rode this loop. This shoulder summit point is one answer to the question this ranger asked me: It provides one missing link, to make a loop ride, combining the unique, wonderful, isolated  paved forest roads in Elliot State Forest with a long river highway ramble along the Tyee and Umpqua River - all on paved roads. This is not the shortest of all such possible routes. That would go over Little Camp Creek Rd s(u). But it is not that much longer than that option.

1.(60ft,mile00.0)START-END WEST: jct Or38-Loon Lake Rd
2.(230ft,mile05.00)route turns left onto Camp Creek Rd
3.(390ft,mile11.6)jct with Buck Creek Rd on lef
4.(570ft,mile18.7)jct Camp Creek Rd - Lindy Bridge Rd - Little Camp Creek Rd
5.(620ft,mile19.2)jct with BLM 23-8-36.1 (google maps designation) road on left
6.(2120ft,mile26.7)TOP: confusing intersection with BLM25-7-5.1
7.(290ft,mile36.5)START-END EAST: river across Umpqua River on Tyee Access Rd


From North. Finding Camp Creek Road is no problem. You just take look for a sign on Loon Lake Road (which in turn is  a well signed turnoff from Or38, east of Reedsport). - And riding up Camp Creek Road is a pure joy, especially for those who tend to be memorized by a wild brook flowing along behind what seems like impenetrable jungle. There is more on that climb on the BLM23-8-28: Elliot State Forest(sh) page.

When you get to the top the road presents a puzzle. Four paved roads meet here. Examining the totality of evidence of signs, where they are pointing, how they are oriented, standing or lying destroyed next to the road, one can piece together a few facts about this intersection. The road crossing at right angles from the arrival point seems to be numbered 23-8-28. The one going downhill in the opposite direction seems to be numbered 25.7-5.1. Does that help any ? I didn't think so! After riding all the roads - not in one day of course - I now know, that the one descending to the Tyee River is the opposite one, going down and numbered 25.7-5.1, Actually I found out when I got to the top (see the notes below the dayride). The crossing road leads to two summit points: BLM23-8-28 Elliot State Fores(sh) to the left and the higher BLM23-8-28 Elliot State Fores s(u) to the right. De Lorme gazeteer map only show BLM25.7.5.1, BLM25-8-28 to the left and Camp Creek Road

From South. (described downwards). There is even a momentary far view of the landscape, immediately after the top. But it really is not much to look at, just a haphazard clear cut patter in a muddle of green hills. For me, the close views of the amazing jungle like forest are more interesting. And this descend has its share of dead trees reflecting in moss surrounded pools. It is quite a large descend for being so close to the coast. As you approach the bottom, the clear cut areas start to dominate the landscape again. The profile ends at the jct with Tyee Road at a bridge across the river.



( < BLM25-8-28: Elliot State Forest(sh) | FR58 Klickitat Rd s(u) > )
Camp Creek road - BLM25-7-5.1(sh) , addtional out and back: just south of jct Loon Lake Rd - Camp Creek Rd > up Camp Creek Rd > Camp Creek Rd - BLM25-7-5.1(sh) <> out and back to the right over BLM25-8-28: Elliot State Forest s(u) and down the other side an indeterminate amount >> down BLM25-7-5.1 > Tyee Rd north > Or138 north > Elkton > Or38 west >  Scottsburg > Loon Lake Road south > back to starting point: 91.5miles with 4590ft of climbing in 7:02hrs (VDO MC1.0 r2:13.8.2)

Notes: When I got to the top of this summit point I met Kelly with his stopped truck camper. He was puzzled about how to proceed form this intersection - just as I was, and that in spite of his functioning GPS. "Proceed along the way" it kept telling him. - Yes but which way ??. I, on the other had a more old fashioned method of orientation: I carried a large scale "de Lorme Gazeteer Atlas of Oregon" ,that just barely fit into my backpack. But it didn't show all the roads at this intersection, which just goes to show that  GPS and maps are still sometimes about equally useless.

But he knew the way he came up, and I knew the way I came up, which was the way he wanted to go down and vice versa. We had an extended conversation about truck campers, his one year trip he is on in one of them, rainshadows in Washington State, computer wireless services, water reserves in truck campers,climate differences in the north west, how to classify water falls and a host of other topics, only limited by the lack of time. This would become a late day for me anyway.  But you meet the best people in the most out of the way places. "First I thought  I would probably meet a logger up here, who would send me in the wrong direction - just out of spite"  he said. The number of cars I encountered on Elliot State Forest paved roads in 4 days of riding would not require all my fingers (luckily I have all of them), which makes this meeting extra - extraordinary.